I been to Induction program where the new Pathfinder is presented with the neckerchief at the time of the induction program. Also, I been to Induction program where the new Pathfinder is already wearing the neckerchief before been invested.

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What is the correct method for you? For me the neckerchief should be presented at the time of the induction just like they do with the Master Guide. At least I did that when I was a club director. Now, as an AC I'm writing a check list (Induction and Investiture) for the directors of my Area, due to some of them are new and don't know what they need to do. I want to present the right information. Any help will be appreciated. THe NAD recommeded format is here: I can not say we have ever done it just exactly the way it is set out in the manual.

The tradition in our area has been to provide the scarf at the first investiture in a given level. So that would be then the end of the first year as an Adventurer, then the end of the first year as a Pf. Once upon a time that put first year pathfinders wearing an orange scarf and since that was the tradition it was never looked at twice. In more recent years the scarf has become something given or purchased (depending of the club's resources) at the begining of the first year so as to be uniform with the club.

I would certainly suggest that this is something that whatever is chosen should be made uniform throughout your conference. That being as a Coordinator - I recommend discussing the matter with your peers and Director making a conference policy of the choice you all come to settle on. Which may put it at the Induction service to be uniform throughout the year. God Bless, Chris Fishell Xtreme Youth Resources International. Jim, You are right in concept; only a person new to Pathfinders (it is possible to become a MG without ever having been a Pathfinder) must be inducted.

A MG can opperate an induction service with any experienced MG's available. It is possible at a new club that all of the kids and most of the staff are new to Pf - in this case the veteran staff and kids will manage the induction and may need to (quite as Betsy says) contact the conference for help as well as other local clubs seeking the presence of their most senior staff if you are short handed enough. God Bless, Chris Fishell Xtreme Youth Resources International.

Your responses are interesting, and I appreciate them. I have been active with several clubs as a staff member, and later, a MG.

When I started this new club, I went to the veteran MG/PIA/PLA who oversaw my MG training. His scoop was that we'd all have to be inducted into the club since it was a new one. My understanding from talking with him is that induction is club-specific, not conference specific. To muddy the waters a bit more - Another conference I'd worked with said that I'd have to be inducted into the club since I was coming from a different conference. I'll check with my ACs to see what their recommendation is.

I've looked through my PF staff manual and my conference-issued director's manual, but haven't seen this specific question addressed. Thanks for your input, all. Linda Auburn SDA MG. I will throw in another twist. I was an Adventurer Director in Indiana for 18 years then after a year of rest, was asked to help with a Pathfinder Club in Michigan, and am going on my 4th year there.

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In Indiana, none of the club staff was inducted but new Pathfinders were AND returning Pathfinders recommited themselves and took the vow as well. In the Michigan club, staff again are not inducted but new Pathfinders are at the induction service (although those who have completed Adventures are invited to participate in the summer program before the 'official' induction service). Here's the twist: At the Michigan Leadership Training Seminar last weekend, we had an Induction Service for all the staff who have not been inducted into the Michigan Conference. Terry Dodge, our state Pathfinder Director explained that this is done every few years to show how it is should be done within the club and also to allow the staff to dedicate themselves to service within the conference. This was really something new to me but I felt a bonding with my fellow staff and was happy to be on the receiving end.

NOW I can finally feel what our new Pathfinders go through and anxiously await our clubs induction. Will I do it again, given the opportunity?

YES Will I ever ask if it is really necessary to do it again? NO WAY May the Lord always find in us, as staff, a committed (re-committed) spirit of Pathfindering FOR the Pathfinders WHO WE SERVE.

Their Club - Our Guidance Jess Spry MG - PLA. Once a Pathfinder has been inducted, rather as a staff member or as a Pathfinder they are part of a global organization with millions of other Pathfinders. If you look in the first section of the staff manual, Pathfinders is described globally, NOT locally. We are part of something much bigger than our local club. You may also notice that the words in the typical Induction service talk about the community of Pathfinders rather than the local club. All that to say, I don't believe it is standard practice to be induced into each new club. Mark O'Ffill.

Little Lamb and Eager Beaver (save possibly Floridia) are components of Adventurers in the way TLT or Varsity are components of Pathfinders. Master Guide stands alone as a class like Friend and Helping Hand but uniquely as the 'entrance qualification' to independant leadership status. That is once upon a time you were or became quickly a MG before you led any kind of AY program. Adventurers, Pathfinders, and AYS are the 'fraternities' (Other places Ambassadors) within the Adventist Youth Ministries the others are levels of them or training for leadership in them. God Bless, Chris Fishell.